Thank you for the information, I really appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions. I have been using 3ds max for a few years and I have a copy of Poser 8 that I have played around with a little bit. I have never animated a character in either program before as most of my 3d work is in the architectural illustration field, but I am wanting to learn to do what you do. If I can get my characters to look as half as good as yours I will be very happy!!